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Sur Ron Light Bee Review – Imported by Luna Cycle – Update May 21 2019

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Can you tell me your height and weight? I am 6.1 and 245lbs just wondering about this being able to handle my big rear end.

Great review!

Great article with good inspiration for me! Please keep updating us on further improvements you might do on the bike!

/Mike

“I realize this is my photography site. But I like to post things I’m passionate about and two wheeled vehicles DEFINITELY fit in that category. They have occupied my thoughts and activities my entire life. So for you photographers looking for my latest assessment of a strobe, modifier or something similar, keep moving along.”

Far from being irrelevant, these posts “bring” you down from the “God of Photography” level to just another human with real other interests. Love these articles even though I don’t ride anything with less than 3 wheels 😀

Have a wonderful day Mark. 🙂

🙂 remember those banned 3 wheels atv? I guess they weren’t as safe as I thought. Recently I rode on a 3 wheeler that I would highly recommend to anyone: a tuk-tuk. Ok so it’s not the vehicle itself but rather, a trip to Thailand is a great vacation. $6 1-hour massage, ride elephant and bottle feed tiger, lion, and leopard. great food and lots of beautiful sceneries (beaches, temples, people). If you r interested, drop me a line and I can send you the contact of our tour guide 🙂

hi, do you know of anything in between in terms of power/price of the sur ron and the zero & alta motors dirt bikes?

something like 20 hp?

What is your max speed in eco mode with the 60 tooth sprocket? Im tring to max out at 20mph to be legal on arizona bike paths.

Thank you! Can you download the SpeedBox ap on your smart phone and give it a try for me on your next outing? I love Speedbox as it gives your GPS speed/max speed/ elevation change data as you ride. My new Arizona laws require a max of 20 mph for any electrical assistance and peddles to make the surron a class 2 e-bike for bike path use. So before i purchase a 60t I thought i would hit up the community for a clear answer. Not sure if you still use or have mounted your 60t for this tryout. If not ill keep poking around. I’ve been in touch with Luna on this subject and they’re giving an estimate of 20-22 mph w/60t in eco mode. So with me being 200lb 6’1” I think this could be my answer. Love your surron writeup by the way. Thx for your reply.

I’ve been researching these and I’m pretty impressed with the reviews so far. I’ll be picking one up by the end of the year. The question I have, is where are you riding this at? I live in Felton and have a ton of random trails I can barge. I believe you’re in the bay area somewhere? Do the mountain bikers give you shit? Or the kids out at Shells? Just curious what to expect around here with all of the self righteous Palo Alto types… Yes, I work at Tesla and know the reality of this area. lol

Thanks!

For some reason my stock bash plate was aluminum?
Also found out the X-controller was a one off deal. The manufacturer as of now has not agreed to sell them anymore. 🙁
Next thing is to look for new foot pegs. The stock ones are very slippery when muddy or wet.

Alpinestars tech 10 most of the time some times just tennis when I am checking stuff around the acreage.
I did remove all the bolts and anti seized them. Some were getting corrosion on the threads.
Like you web site info on this bike/motorcycle!

That’s a really great preventative measure!

Well I got my skid plate installed. Good new they must of fixed the alignment mounting problems. Less than a 5 min job now. 🙂 Bad new the welds are just plane ugly now. Good thing you can’t see them.

Hi Mark!
What is needed to register the Sur-Ron as a moped in Calif. Any short cuts to share?

Thanks!

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your informative and ongoing review. I’m curious about three things if you don’t mind: 1) Please comment on the pedal system, is it just for looks or can the Sur Ron actually be pedaled, 2) any further thoughts on adding bearings to the kit, 3) Have you removed the moto kit to keep the pedals or have you found a way to have both?

Thanks Mark. Still contemplating a purchase and the pedals help with a flimsy e-bike argument I am making in my head. I appreciate you sharing so much great info here.

I plan on getting one to commute to college for a total 15 miles round trip. I will save ton of money compared to Zero and even ev autos.

Would you recommend this for my application?

And as a engineering student I can see me modding it a little to fit my speed needs. . Lol

Hi Mark,
I just received my moped license plate, thank you for the guidance, and it was only $18.00!

I’m really interested in your fork conversion, and hoping you’ll be posting instruction, tools, and how to obtain such a low cost for the very expensive forks?

Thanks Again!

Hi Mark,

A few questions for you regarding the fork upgrade.

The RST Killah fork to crown measurement is 560mm and the Manitou Dorado fork to crown measurement is 567/591mm. Have you noticed any differences with the taller fork hight?

Would the Manitou Dorado 27.5” (fork to crown measurement @ 582/606, which is a little over a 1/2 compared to the 26” Dorado) be up for consideration?

As always, thanks for you advice and input!

Congratulations for your setup! I’m also configuring my Sur Rom and I have a question: Can you get the map of motor wiring?
Thanks

Hi Mark,
Very much appreciate your sharing of modifications and details, as Ive been incorporating allot of them onto my Light Bee. Plan on posting some photo’s very soon. Sure would like to get a 21” front wheel built or purchase one assembled, if possible? Can you support with a process and/or details?

Thanks!

Hi Ed, you can contact Josh Nowell through a Facebook group. He’s the one who built my wheel.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1432733183623914/permalink/2010384005858826/?hc_location=ufi

Mark,

I found your review on the Sur-Ron. It’s the most in depth one I have seen–great job! I was wondering if I could ask a question or two? You wrote that the build seems almost Honda quality but I noticed you replaced suspension and other parts with some pretty high end equipment. What are your thoughts about stock durability? If I leave it stock will I absolutely destroy it if I bash it offroad? If I do destroy parts, I guess it is easy to replace or upgrade? How many hours do you have on yours? I ride downhill mountain bikes and enduro race dirt bikes, so I’m pretty sensitive to quality. I love the price and concept of the Sur-Ron though!

Thanks,

Chris

Mark,
Thanks for a great ongoing report. One thing I possibly missed is real range numbers in rough country riding. I see your ride numbers and some numbers elsewhere, but few real “safe” actual mileages at old guy speeds. At this point in my almost 70 year life, I’m not ready to give up offroad, but XR’s and my current TTR are heavier and taller than they were, and owning an electric tractor at one point and presently a highly modded “Velocifero MAD” as a home utility vehicle, have completely sold me on quiet power. I still manage 30/40 miles off road, but would only truly feel saved from pushing by a 50’ish number. Can you give a guesstimate on what you actually get? I weigh 170 with gear.
Arizona requires a title for off-road riding, so that is also an issue (conflicting reports from DMV), but it may be possible with frame number and bill of sale.
Thanks again for very informative writing (and pics!)

Thanks for your quick response. I have been shopping Sur Ron as well as GasGas eContact and Electric Motion Escape. The Sur Ron appears the most cost effective and readily available and maybe better for desert trails. I do have lots of sand where I ride, but have been avoiding it the last few years when I can (Shoulder surgery…). I’ve also thought of backpacking a battery as they’re not too heavy, but that’s an expensive and possibly complicated option. More likely I will be ready to think about shorter rides. Anyway, I’ll keep checking out your article and am sure others find it as practical and interesting as I do.

Hello,

Can you tell me your Sur Ron’s Font&Back mudguard brand and part number?
Looks slick and dope

Thanks